By funding programming and fulfilling requests of those in need, they are committed to showing compassion, displaying kindness, and making a difference in the world. [quote]I don't measure my driver distance. Now that you guys have more and more data from the combine tests are you going to adjust the hcap chart. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. This promotes a lower ball flight and is seen by tour players as being a more accurate shot than having the ball float into the air. I stressed this to my fitter - make sure you talk to them about your golf as they are only seeing a small sample of your game. When it comes to talking about distance in golf the easiest and most obvious place to start is of course always with the longest club in the golf bag the driver. If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. Trackman golf terms: What Trackman results mean Club head speed: Club head speed is the speed that the club head is traveling at when it makes impact with the ball. Srixon WG-706 56 w/ Nippon Modus Prototype C10 S The SM9s are an evolution of the Vokeys but not a drastic change, youll notice a difference between these and the SM6s but only a subtle change from the SM8s. Callaway XR Pro (20) Diamana White 90X Jon has proven that he is able to compete at the For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer They must get club speed confused with ball speed, Cough Some people may exaggerate slightly , Hi My ball speed is with driver 195 km/h AND 160 km/h with a 6 iron Schaft = rgular or ???? What is evident is you obviously don't play with good amateur players. Im sure most of them can squeeze out 10 extra yards on every club on this chart. My average club separation is about 15 yards. Thanks! [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364414933' post='6708795'] If a 50% greens in regulation (GIR) stat was desired for the AMA, then the approach shot would need to be approximately 140 yards. I work in the industry and frequently play with low handicaps who tease me into playing longer yardage (they assume at 63 250 I bomb it) my home course is 7400 from the tips, and this frustratingly puts my score in the mid 90s. You can post now and register later. The wedge glided through the turf and nipped the ball at impact, resulting in reliable soft strikes. There is a very obvious relationship between these two variables. I actually feel I get more out irons than I do the woods. [/quote] The TrackMan Combine data collected from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world will be used to analyze his performance in hopes of better understanding where improvement(s) can be made. WebCongratulations to Justin Thomas with his latest victory at the Dell Technologies Championship, well played! It's not the length that makes a pro. How can that be true. WebJustin Thomas TrackMan Numbers Congratulations to Justin Thomas with his latest victory at the Dell Technologies Championship, well played! This demonstrates that without changing technique and only changing strategy, the AMA can improve their performance. It's the short game. 46 to 54 degree heads have narrower and deeper grooves as these are used more in fuller shots with greater swing/ball speed. For years, Justin has quietly used his fame and financial wherewithal to help many. My handicap is 24, but my driving (swing) works well. As he becomes more efficient, the AMA has shorter approach shots which lead to closer proximity to the hole. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Launch Angle - 11*[/background][/size][/color] That tells I would have guessed #1 because of the "low spin" mantra, even though the launch is a touch low. But mostly, when playing for the money, they dont. A good drive might only yield 250 and that isnt exciting. Learn to play your game, but keep pushing yourself where sensible and on the range, and youll enjoy your round more and start playing much more consistent golf. BALL; Chrome Soft X. TI Taylormade SIM Ti (15.4) Tensei CK Pro Blue 80X Club Speed 113 mph Ball Speed 166 mph Attack Angle -1 deg Launch Angle 12 deg Spin Rate 2298 rpm I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. The previous table looked at the approach distance the AMA will have based on hole length and average drive distance. You dont need to be depressed your swing speed is high enough to play very good golf. Have a look at his driver and 6 iron swing, incl. 398 were here. How Far Should I Hit My Hybrids? To help however answer the question as well as we can the table below shows the varying distances some of the top pros, including Tiger Woods, Rory McIlroy and Dustin Johnson, are hitting their wedges, together with the degrees of loft their clubs are listed at. I am a 35 year old AMA at a 15. Does that make sense? I know a 47 year old who played d1 golf hits nothing but trap draws hits 8 irons 190. Distance is only a big deal to those who don't have it The data results given in this article are completely skewed. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. http://www.rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/golfequipment/golf-launch-monitor.php, Short hitter compared to the average WRXer. Angle of attack, club speed, path, club face. It's good for some laughs. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 85 S, Irons: Callaway Apex Forged (2021) (4-PW) Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] Knowing tee shot distances and iron distances helps with that. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] show the real time hit - then after the shot replay it with the numbers/tracer. I know I hit the ball a long way though. There is nothing worse than getting the club stuck in the ground at impact. As the previous poster said Im 43 so wont be Bubba Watson anytime soon. Great read with invaluable data and information. Finally, course strategy is an improvement that can be made without having to change anything relating to the swing, technique, or other physical items. I hit a green today which was 163 so pulled a 6 iron landed on back part of the green 10 yds past the flag. Id estimate the average tour player will hit their basic solid drive between 295-310 under neutral conditions. And also wondering how LPGA fits into this chart. I played Monday and hit my 1st 3 drives over 300 and in the fairway. Justin is that really you?? My teachers are always trying to get me to change my swing to generate club head speed, but this consistently leaves me frustrated and physically sore. Have a look at his numbers. Carry Efficiency 2.51 Shafts: Nippon N.S. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. Your link has been automatically embedded. I don't play professional golf. The difference in a good amateur player and a touring professional is typically going to be short game, endurance, and that space between the ears. Im a 9 handicap wanting to get into the low single digits. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. Hamish777, March 26, 2013 in WRX Club Techs. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. He is traditional in what he wants the wedge to look like. Top 50 Player Guide. Sorry that I can not be of better help right now. When I watch professional events I am always taken aback by how high they hit their driver but how low they hit their wedges. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. The best distance comparison we have for those clubs is therefore the carry distance. People like you that rant about longer amateurs is what makes for good laughs. Once you except your limitations, you can get out and enjoy the game we LOVE instead of loathing it. I appreciate your thoughts, great article. [quote name='eddie_max' timestamp='1364438260' post='6711367'] All rights reserved, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Charles-Lambert-video-2.mp4, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Justin-Thomas-2.mp4, https://justinthomasgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/20220908_125734.mp4. When it comes to his mid-irons he hits his 6-iron and 7-iron 195 and 180 yards. To make such large scale improvements, we must first better understand the patientin order to diagnose the problems. I went into a facility with Trackman launch monitors and have attached Shaft: Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW Blue 75 TX, Hybrid: Titleist TSi2 (21 degrees) As for his short irons his 8-iron yardage is 165, he hits his 9-iron 150 yards and his pitching wedge 135 yards on average. Before it is assumed that the AMA should simply club up, actual distances with each club should be determined. Cobra Radspeed 5W RDX Blue, Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4i Tour AD DI [/quote] Launch angle was between 17-22. This informative information was more helpful for golfers. The ball shoots from the face and you lose the control of the ball. Before when I opened the club face I presented too much leading edge, but due to the high bounce and shape with the M grind this doesnt happen. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 95 X Hybrid, Irons: Titleist T100 (3-9) It takes persistence and painstaking practice to regularly do drills designed to help improve your swing speed, not to mention the constant measuring to ensure you are in fact improving your swing speed. He has an average attack angle of -1.6 degrees. PGA Tour players hit their driver a total of 296.6 yards on average with a carry distance of 284.3 yards according to official 2022 Shotlink data. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. I can hit the ball a long ways, that doesn't make me full of bs. How to gain more distance without swinging faster? Sometimes I will hit a 270 once or twice a round maybe and then two or three more at 240, but I will mix in a few bad ones at 190 with a hook or a slice and the rest will be at least 215 to 220. Hi I have always had an out to in swing until recent. Have a look at his driver and 6 iron numbers below: Driver 6 Feel free toshare your thoughts and experience in the comment section below. It sounds like Sophie has found her new fairway wood Titleist's brand new fairway model is seriously hot, New HydraZip face provides 43% more spin in wet conditions. Shaft:Fujikura Ventus TR Blue 7 X, Irons: TaylorMade P770 (4-5), TaylorMade P7MC (6-PW) If I slow it down some and shoot for 280-290, I hit more fairways. Learn how your comment data is processed. Circa62, Tiger also ranks 125th on tour in total driving efficiency. Im wondering if there are outliers here?. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. As we can again see from Brooks Koepkas yardage book above he has 5 different yardages listed for each of his specialist wedges which highlights just how much distance control the best golfers in the world can exert with their wedges. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer When you watch the PGA Tour or any major championship on TV it is hard not to notice how far pro golfers hit the ball. The challenge is, improving your distance is a slow and arduous process. People that take hole distance & distance on approach to calculate driving distance is what's funny. I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. [/quote] Driver: GolfWRX is on the ground in Orlando ahead of the 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational at Bay Hill Club & Lodge. Hes learned nothing Olympic legend launches scathing attack on Tiger Woods over tampon apology, Golf fans left bemused following bizarre Jim Nantz blunder, Best driver 2023: Expert club fitters recommend the best driver for your swing speed, An UP-CLOSE look at Tiger Woods famous Scotty Cameron putter, David Feherty ridiculed for Greg Norman comment during LIV broadcast, Tour pro says LIV would be done if Brooks Koepka returned to PGA Tour, TOUR REPORT: McIlroy switches drivers during Genesis Invitational (plus Tigers iron change). 3-irons average 217 yds, 4-irons 208 yds, 5-irons 199 yds, 6-irons 188 yds, 7-irons 177 yds, 8-irons 164 yds and 9-irons 153 yds. Im a 42 year old 59 and been playing golf since I was 35. In the following table the list shows how far a selection of PGA and LPGA Tour pros hit their 3-wood, 5-wood and hybrid clubs. Even my 4 iron ball speed max is 137 and Im getting 235 yards. In 2019, he launched the Justin Thomas Foundation, aimed to help military families, junior golf and children in need. It was soft in landing rather than quick and checking. Can i play a pro v1, or a harder ball I wont more distance KIND regards Rene Claeys Ren. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021), link to What Driver is Most Used On the PGA Tour? [/quote] Here are Tiger's averages for this season on shots that were measured: He is committed to having a positive effect on their lives. also his AoD on the stinger. On average PGA Tour pros hit a 3-wood a carry distance of 249 yards. I'm not on here to impress anyone with my driving distance but that doesn't mean I didn't hit it that far. Ha, okay. I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. [Note If you are interested in what drivers and fairway woods the top 100 PGA Tour players are using check out the in-depth analysis we have done here.]. [/quote] Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. Trackman is pretty interesting, obviously path and angle of attack change depending on the shot your trying to shape. F rom the comfort of your sofa or if youre lucky, alongside the ropes each major championship gives you a chance to see the biggest hitters in the world unsheathe their drivers and swing away. Executive Director, The First Tee of Louisville, Jennifer Helgeson Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk. 2 were over 320. I don't play professional golf. Youd be correct and that is why its always best to get fitted and discuss purchases with your pro. It is fun and I find that I usually am scoring better than I would say 90% of the guys I play with now, hitting on average longer than 90% and I realize that that is because shooting in the 90s means in golf you are better than most so above average which unless you played since a teenager and have no other life and want to play 4 to 5 days a week or more that is all you can ask for. =t 'BRvGGs.Du="dP0 J/% Np^=+,5I,F5HH#418y\PuQ5) x9.>5?2P5@B$bz.k^OY<>Vf.%,(H8,~f3YzWBpj|!8K^E`$D &XP9gBTl+= Tg{\(k@bW6o9e:&x$hx"o0@:+}UnMD($R*3|>M}18&oA>m Ed&Z):Y{J|'@*bT6|QNbge2RU'02_^^{ hard to say for sure who was at fault in the beginning i am 7 handicap play with a friend who is 26-28 i play blue he plays white even when an extra player joins me on the blue he still plays white. Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom, 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) The AMA is capable of carrying the ball much further than his current total distance. Greater distancethe eternal quest for golfers. The next table uses the approach distances from the previous and calculates the proximity to hole. My average driver distance over 2 full rounds it 223 yards and that includes the one or two bad shots off the box that only goes 100 plus yards just above the red Ts . And as it is highly unlikely even the best pros in the world never want to hit their driver as far as they can so it is clearly the club we are going to get the best idea of the maximum distance they hit the ball. I feel like a lot of AMs sacrifice strike for the extra 1-2 mph which ultimately leads to less distance. But then on the next hole when they come back down the hill with the wind behind them, they all go 340. Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high It's good for some laughs. What Determines Driver Distance? The AMA isnt going to be achieving this max theoretical 255 yard drive very often. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Launch Angle - 11*[/background][/size][/color] As golf instruction and coaching continue to move more towards verifiable data (what the instructor/coach knows) and further away from guess and check (what the instructor/coach thinks), we expect to see more improvement in the golf community. Carry Efficiency 2.51 The attention to detail from Bob Vokey is extraordinary and you can feel the change in strike as you try many different heads. There he became one of the storied programs most decorated athletes being named Phil Mickelson Freshman of the Year, Jack Nicklaus Player of the Year, the Haskins Award Winner as the most outstanding player in collegiate and amateur golf, and capped his collegiate career by helping the Crimson Tide win their first National Championship in 2013. Spin- 2645, 1948 low, 3745 high Titleist 712 CB 4-9, MB PW KBS Tour (HS1X) 915 FD But he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Little higher launch, still low spin into the wind, and much easier to swing day in and day out. Elite level Trackman Golf Coaching from Expert & Award winning coaches, Scott and Jamie Howarth. Bob Vokey makes the best wedges for the best players in the world on behalf of Titleist. I hit the same. So much so that if I'm 220 out, a distance I can reach with a perfect 5 wood, ill hit to 50, pitch, putt, par and drive you insane. That means the distance from the center of the green tothe edge averages just under 44 feet. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. 4 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X, Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x, Putter- Odyssey Vesa 12 center stroke lab shaft. 716MB (5-PW)- DG S400 I didnt start playing until i was 31 and it was over by 42 yet my handicap was 12. TI Taylormade SIM (9.0) Tensei CK Pro Orange 70TX I have a terrible slice that knocks A LOT of yards off of my drive. The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. I am guarded from the bladed strike when hitting the lob shot which then builds a trust and compliment to my short game. Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 7 S, Hybrid: Callaway Apex (19 degrees) i suggested he play white from the start and he is happy. Length is nothing. I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. Shafts:KBS Tour 125 S+, Putter: TaylorMade Spider GT [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] Does anyone know any of Tiger Woods Trackman data either pitching, irons, 3woods or driver? If you are a right handed player the slice and above numbers could be due to a heel strike. Spin Rate 2,645.8 If I have a front pin with a hard green, I would go at it harder with the shorter club, maybe a 150 yard pitching wedge. Another added complication when it comes to comparing the distances that the pros hit their wedges is the differing lofts each of them often carries for seemingly the same club. I am disabled now and dont play at all but i had a spinal fusion and two rods put in my back when i was a teenager. Please have a look at the TrackMan locator at this link; https://mytrackman.com/public/locator, Kind regards Niklas Bergdahl Support Manager. I think you wish you hit it further. Probably because he plays a higher spin ball than most. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. I play from the whites if it is more of a difficult or bigger course. You cannot paste images directly. It has to do with my ability. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. It's a pretty common way to play the game and it helps the scoring aspect of your game tremendously. Thats a course representative of the average golfer? Their experiences, time away from family, and willingness to sacrifice their lives for our freedom has truly made an impact on Justin. I can say that Trackman is second to none, and its always my first recommendation to others. [url="http://www.rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/golfequipment/golf-launch-monitor.php"]http://www.rotaryswinch-monitor.php[/url] The trend right now with wedge play for all manufacturers is lowering the ball flight on the full shots. Is it around 25-35% less then the AMA group? Standard 60 lob wedges meanwhile carry 95 to 105 yards on average. Shaft: Aldila NV, Irons: Cobra Amp Forged (4-PW) Bilan, I think you should rub one out before you get to first tee box. *Normalized data was used to calculate approach shot distances. PGA, Executive Director, Golf House Kentucky | Kentucky Golf Foundation. That's what I think. I know what you are thinking, there is a lot that goes into making a wedge. Distance is great. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364404259' post='6707501'] TrackMan session with Justin Rose and Sean Foley - YouTube 0:00 / 5:10 TrackMan session with Justin Rose and Sean Foley 158,856 views Feb 26, 2013 See how On top of that it drew me feeling like unless I can hit it 250 every time and at least shoot in the low 90s from the Blue I might as well just give golf up. Justin credits his success on the PGA TOUR to a childhood full of direction, support, and love. The fairways where I play are very firm and I get a fair amount of roll. You will probably pick up that I gravitate towards the technical aspects of most things I do. This is so I could hit it higher and spin it more, enabling me to access that tough pin position. <> Im 46 years old and dont think my 95 mph swing speed will increase that dramatically without throwing rhythm off. [/quote] Cameron Napa California @ 34"[/b]. Most of my longer clubs only just creep above the 200 yd mark. The difference in a lot of longer amateurs and pros is control. WebReport PP - Read online for free. But you also have to add in the slight mishits, the rainy days, and the balls that land in the rough. Vokeys are no doubt aspirational golf clubs, you are viewed as a knowledgeable and better golfer if you have these in the bag. f[yZ3 /=KCYOSg~VN@ ae@.Xq@U$ Q\8H`/ 9Hj: .1xq My SM8 wedges are a few years old and have played over the recommended 75 rounds. Or should i take control on the distance i have? I played Monday and hit my 1st 3 drives over 300 and in the fairway. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. The following chart shows average handicap versus average club speed. The average USGA handicap for male golfers has been between 14.0 and 15.0 since 2005. Or the public course in Lenoir, NC? What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. RocketBladez Tour 4-PW // C-Taper Does Trackman update this data each year? Unlock the POWER Muscles in Your Golf Swing! Spin Rate is on the high side, which also could indicate an off-center strike, and probably a negative attack angle both will shorten your distance. My spin dropped 500 rpm on average and my flight favoured the left side.